Augustes

Blu-Ray software is more expensive than HD and you can't buy a Blu-Ray player.
But you can buy an HD-DVD player there....

redford

What are you talking about?

BLR : 50 FIRST DATES $ 21.54
BLR : CHRONOS $ 14.99
BLR : CRASH $ 24.79
BLR : HITCH $ 21.54
BLR : HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS $ 21.54
BLR : KNIGHT'S TALE $ 21.54
BLR : LORD OF WAR $ 24.79
BLR : RESIDENT EVIL-APOCALYPSE $ 21.54
BLR : SAW $ 18.60
BLR : T2 $ 18.59
BLR : THE FIFTH ELEMENT $ 21.54
BLR : THE LAST WALTZ $ 21.54
BLR : THE PUNISHER $ 18.59
BLR : UNDERWORLD-EVOLUTION $ 31.19
BLR : XXX $ 21.54

HDD : CHRONOS $ 14.99
HDD : MILLION DOLLAR BABY $ 20.99
HDD : PHANTOM OF THE OPERA $ 20.99
HDD : THE LAST SAMURAI $ 20.99



Blu-ray catalog titles are $18.59-21.54. HD DVD catalog titles are $20.99. How is Blu-ray "more expensive"?



Blu-ray titles over $21.54 (Crash, Lord of War, Underworld-Evolution) are new releases. HD DVD has no new releases available for preorder so far, so we can't compare.

The only title available for both formats has the exact same price.

WRT the player, if deepdiscountdvd has it, it is exclusively because Warner will not supply any retailers that don't offer hardware as well as software.

Nero

We've discussed the price quite a bit. The price will be determined by the market and neither will let the other be much different in price. Probably more money to the studios with HD-DVD (higher profit margin), but what do we care about that.

Makes me wonder why HD-DVD doesn't lower the price to where it is barely profitable to try to squeeze BR into selling at a loss. Obviously there is more to it than that.

They need to get this figured out, though. I want 5th Element very badly in HD, but I'm not going to buy a $1,000 player that may well end up being the loser to get it.

Nimbus

That's all very well, but:

Blu-ray software is not more expensive than HD DVD.

Augustes

Well, it looks like the average BR catalog title is about $21.54 while the HD-DVD catalog titles are around $20.99.

That's why HD-DVD is cheaper than BR software. We don't know how much an HD-DVD "new release" will cost, but it, too, will be cheaper.

Not suprising since HD-DVD has touted its lower cost-- they can't afford to be more expensive. BR must match or beat HD-DVD but I don't think they can. BR software and hardware will be more expensive.

I believe the HD-DVD camp will lower cost to lower the boom on BR once they get started. Kind of a rope-a-dope strategy.

redford

Wrong again.

We have eight Blu-ray catalog studio titles at $21.54, two at $18.59 and one at $18.60. Hence, the average price for catalog titles available as of now on DDD is $20.74 for Blu-ray vs $20.99 for HD DVD.

So, if anything, the average price for Blu-ray catalog titles is lower than HD DVD.

Nero

the HD-DVD Crowd is a truely biased one lol. You guys are now counting pennys on the dollar as the "huge" price difference that was supposed to happen? C'mon now. Blu-Ray will have millions of installed systems all over the world by next years end JUST from PS3 sales, let alone stand alone system sales. HD-DVD is going to have to go through hell to keep up with the staggering #s of PS3s that are going to be sold, pushing Blu-Rays installed base through the roof year after year. The format wars are over before they began IMO, since all PS3 games will be made in BR discs, movies for that format will also be made. Seems pretty simple to me? Before anyone brings up UMD's, they were a debacle from the begining, bringing nothing new to the table for consumers. Blu-Ray is the exact opposite of that. 1080p, tons of storage space and exciting new features.

Maybe im not thinking hard enough lol.

p.s. - Blu-Ray burners > HD-DVD Burners. Ill take 50-gig dual layer over 35-gig dual layer for storage and home movie conversions into HD format any-day!

Nimbus

There is nearly no price difference. I can't believe anyone would try to show that as an advantage for HD DVD. My big issue with Blu Ray is still the durability of the discs. I want to see them tested to make sure they are as hard to scratch as Sony says. If they are durable enough I will definitely have a Blu Ray player in my future.

redford

I can't believe no one mentioned this yet, but did anyone notice that HD-DVD only has 4 titles to preorder, but Blu-Ray has 15? That doesn't bother anyone who is planning to purchase a HD-DVD player in less than two weeks?

Nero

I think the PS3 will have an impact, but I think its impact is being way overstated by the Blu Ray supporters. As mentioned above its the sheer number of Blu Ray titles announced that I think will be its biggest advantage. People may not be able to afford a player right away, but when they see Blu Ray with 3-4 times the titles for sale at Best Buy in a few months you can bet they will not be real excited about buying an HD DVD player no matter what its price.