blackhawk

Dear all

I have two computers (WinME and Win98) hooked up to a F@st Sagem 3202 ADSL modem. How do I access one from the other via the modem such that I have a LAN? Perhaps I should share folders and allow access from either? In that case I may be using the Internet after all, whereas it should preferably be a LAN with no outside line.

Thanks in advance

heatwave

Could you describe your set up a little better? Do you have NICs in both computers? How are these computers hooked up to the modem? Does the modem contain a switch or router? Are you using cat5 cable to connect?

The more info you provide the better...

blackhawk

Thanks for getting back. The set up is as follows:
- PC1 has a NIC and is connected via UTP/Ethernet to the modem, but not sure whether that would be straight or cross (if that matters)
- PC2 has a NIC and is connected via UBS to the modem

Please enlighten me on how to check whether the modem in question has a router/switch/hub.
I am not familiar with cat5.
Also, if I need to ipconfig both computers, please let me know.

blackhawk

Thanks again. Of course I meant "USB" as opposed to UBS, for the record.

I was once informed that the modem in fact does contain a router or switch, but since I don't know the difference, I quickly forgot the specifics. The manuals I found are all in French, but none of a technical nature.

The ipconfig /all failed, giving me the help file instead, so I tried just ipconfig instead.

PC1 (connected through Ethernet):

Windows ME IP-configuration
0 Ethernet adapter :
IP-address . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.5.10
Subnetmask . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Standard gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.5.1

1 Ethernet adapter :
IP-address . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnetmask . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Standard gateway . . . . . . . :

PC2 (connected through USB port):

Windows 98 IP configuration
0 Ethernet adapter :
IP-address . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnetmask . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Standard gateway . . . . . . . :

1 Ethernet adapter :
IP-address . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnetmask . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Standard gateway . . . . . . . :

2 Ethernet adapter :
IP-address . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.175.246
Subnetmask . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Standard gateway . . . . . . . :

3 Ethernet adapter :
IP-address . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10
Subnetmask . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Standard gateway . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1

I've tried pinging all IP addresses and standard gateway addresses, but consistently a 100% loss. Of course, pinging the machine itself works and 0.0.0.0 I didn't try.

Hope this helps and thanks for your anticipated assistance

heatwave

what country are you in? I've spent some time trying to find a manual for that modem with little success. It seems Sagem is located in every country except the USA, which is where I am. I've found reference to the 800/900/908 models but nothing about a 3202.

Seeing that you have at least two ports (RJ45) on the modem, I presume there is at least a switch if not a router built into the unit.

Go to a command prompt on each machine and type in ipconfig /all then hit enter and get the ip address for each computer. Then try to ping each one. At the command prompt type ping then a space and the ip address of the other computer and hit enter. This will let you know if you are networked.

Let us know how this turns out or if you have any trouble with the steps...

blackhawk

In fact, I accidentally entered an IP address into a browser bar and got to the config pages of the modem. A wonderful utility, because it seems I can set it up as either a DNS server or DHCP server. I'll do some research into the differences and benefits of both.

So suppose I select the latter. I open the DHCP relay, it will automatically configure itself as a DHCP server and all clients connected to it will need to be configured as clients to this server via some OS specific networking utility?

Also, what does it mean that I cannot use the attribute "all" for the ipconfig command?

As for your other question: both computers work fine and are web-enabled.

Best

heatwave

Without a manual for that modem, I kind of at a loss here. You seem to have two separate gateway devices.

You can enter each gateway address into a browser address bar and see if you can access the setup utilities for the device. We can get some information there.

Are you able to get on the internet with both computers?

A lot of questions, not many answers, yet...

blackhawk

Thanks again for your responses. I haven't set up the network yet, although I had been researching the background of DHCP. One other thing, what is the difference between a DHCP server and DHCP relay. Do I need to have both simultaneously?

Also, the configuration screen asks for a from-port and to-port for the DHCP traffic. How do I typically find out the port numbers?

heatwave

OK. We're making progress. I don't think you want to set it up as a DNS server but you do want to enable DHCP. Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol will assign ip addresses automatically. It's a good thing.

On each of your computers, you will want to access the network properties through the control panel. Make sure each is set to obtain ip address automatically. Make sure you have tcp/ip and NetBEUI installed under network protocols, for each computer. And of course, you must have shared folders on each computer.

EDIT: BTW, I have never seen a case where the ipconfig /all command didn't work. I don't really have an answer for this. Are you sure you are typing it in properly?

blackhawk

I have done the following:
Computers are connected via the router which came with the modem
Computers both have unique names under 8 characters
Computers are both on the same Workgroup name
Computers have the IP addresses for both PCs in the trusted zone for software firewall/connection
Both PCs are on
Both computers have at least one file that is shared and have been given access rights for those files.

So let's say I have an IP of 192.168.5.10 on computer 1 and type that into the browser's address bar of computer 2, I get a "connection refused" alert. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance